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> <channel><title>Comments on: Swarf &#8211; Oprah and The Acme</title> <atom:link href="http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/</link> <description>The Magazine for the Precision Parts Industry</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:52:11 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: paul</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5634</link> <dc:creator>paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:37:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5634</guid> <description>More good news for machine operators. I see Toyoda is going the GM route and demanding a 30% price cut over 3 years with 10% immediately. Automakers these days will not let a supplier earn a buck off them. The result will be similar to what happened with the domestics. Parts will come from offshore. And the U.S. will lose another batch of manufacturers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More good news for machine operators. I see Toyoda is going the GM route and demanding a 30% price cut over 3 years with 10% immediately. Automakers these days will not let a supplier earn a buck off them. The result will be similar to what happened with the domestics. Parts will come from offshore. And the U.S. will lose another batch of manufacturers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5620</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:39:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5620</guid> <description>Lloyd,
Great story, this will go up on the wall with &quot;Machine Tools Around the Clock&quot; and other illustrations of the importance of manufacturing in the United States.
Brilliant use of email, too. I enjoy reading what you write and it keeps your business visible and remembered!
Blessings to you and your family over the Holidays,
John</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd,<br
/> Great story, this will go up on the wall with &#8220;Machine Tools Around the Clock&#8221; and other illustrations of the importance of manufacturing in the United States.<br
/> Brilliant use of email, too. I enjoy reading what you write and it keeps your business visible and remembered!<br
/> Blessings to you and your family over the Holidays,<br
/> John</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter Frow</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5605</link> <dc:creator>Peter Frow</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:36:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5605</guid> <description>The pie chart will change as follows:
1. The segment occupied by cam operated machines both single and multi-spindle will continue to shrink driven by the long setup times.  In this regard, quadrant-setting multis such as Wickmans have an advantage over the Acme.
2. There is a diminishing pool of those who know how to design setups and also of competent toolsetters.
3. The fact that soluble oils do not agree with Arby Eight&#039;s digestion is an economic negative.
4. Despite the above, multis operating in the range of 40 mm and below on large batch sizes will continue to be cost effective well into the future. Above 40 mm, the better metal removal rates of single point tool CNCs reduce the multi&#039;s competitive edge which is achieved by having many tools working simultaneously. Also the relatively low maximum spindle speeds attainable on multis and the fact that it is not easy to optimise surface speeds on all spindles is a further negative.
5. Multi-slide fixed headstock CNC&#039;s will prove more cost effective than multi-slide Swiss CNC&#039;s because of their enhanced ability to overlap forming operations with end-working operations, but both types of multislide machines will erode both the single and multi- cam-operated segment.
6. A new generation of CNC multis could only prove cost effective if their selling price could be contained at less than three times the cost of a multislide CNC single spindle.
As one who has operated and rebuilt both single &amp; multispindles for many years, this is what I see in my crystal ball.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pie chart will change as follows:</p><p>1. The segment occupied by cam operated machines both single and multi-spindle will continue to shrink driven by the long setup times.  In this regard, quadrant-setting multis such as Wickmans have an advantage over the Acme.<br
/> 2. There is a diminishing pool of those who know how to design setups and also of competent toolsetters.<br
/> 3. The fact that soluble oils do not agree with Arby Eight&#8217;s digestion is an economic negative.<br
/> 4. Despite the above, multis operating in the range of 40 mm and below on large batch sizes will continue to be cost effective well into the future. Above 40 mm, the better metal removal rates of single point tool CNCs reduce the multi&#8217;s competitive edge which is achieved by having many tools working simultaneously. Also the relatively low maximum spindle speeds attainable on multis and the fact that it is not easy to optimise surface speeds on all spindles is a further negative.<br
/> 5. Multi-slide fixed headstock CNC&#8217;s will prove more cost effective than multi-slide Swiss CNC&#8217;s because of their enhanced ability to overlap forming operations with end-working operations, but both types of multislide machines will erode both the single and multi- cam-operated segment.<br
/> 6. A new generation of CNC multis could only prove cost effective if their selling price could be contained at less than three times the cost of a multislide CNC single spindle.</p><p>As one who has operated and rebuilt both single &amp; multispindles for many years, this is what I see in my crystal ball.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lloyd</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5602</link> <dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5602</guid> <description>My turret was loose when I did the arithmetic on my age. Give me a break.  I&#039;ve had a lot of nasty soluble oil run through my gears since I left Cleveland in 1968.  Have not heard from Oprah yet.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My turret was loose when I did the arithmetic on my age. Give me a break.  I&#8217;ve had a lot of nasty soluble oil run through my gears since I left Cleveland in 1968.  Have not heard from Oprah yet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Neil Westervelt</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5601</link> <dc:creator>Neil Westervelt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5601</guid> <description>If our country would treat all the other countries the same way the treat us, in regards to tarrifs and import laws. We would not out source so may jobs, and the multi&#039;s would run again. Until we tell the politicians we voted you in we can vote you out, nothing will change. Let&#039;s all vote against every incumbant untill the colse the borders.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our country would treat all the other countries the same way the treat us, in regards to tarrifs and import laws. We would not out source so may jobs, and the multi&#8217;s would run again. Until we tell the politicians we voted you in we can vote you out, nothing will change. Let&#8217;s all vote against every incumbant untill the colse the borders.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5598</link> <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:29:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5598</guid> <description>The only &quot;Screw Machines&quot; left in the USA is Congress and Wall street!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only &#8220;Screw Machines&#8221; left in the USA is Congress and Wall street!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WageWhore</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5596</link> <dc:creator>WageWhore</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:26:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5596</guid> <description>My dad owned a machine shop, and he and the great guys that worked there taught me the basics of my trade.. I&#039;ve been in and around manufacturing now full time for over 50 years..  I&#039;ve watched the talent pool diminish sharply, and the thing that really scares the hell out of me is that if we ever get in another big war, do we have the talent left to put together another war machine, or will we have to outsource that to China/India/Korea/Taiwan??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad owned a machine shop, and he and the great guys that worked there taught me the basics of my trade.. I&#8217;ve been in and around manufacturing now full time for over 50 years..  I&#8217;ve watched the talent pool diminish sharply, and the thing that really scares the hell out of me is that if we ever get in another big war, do we have the talent left to put together another war machine, or will we have to outsource that to China/India/Korea/Taiwan??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steven Horn</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5595</link> <dc:creator>Steven Horn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:06:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5595</guid> <description>Looks to me like your brain was washed up in Detroit.  ARBY you are only 41.  Makes you wonder what the future might hold for the likes of you and your relatives in this great country.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like your brain was washed up in Detroit.  ARBY you are only 41.  Makes you wonder what the future might hold for the likes of you and your relatives in this great country.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: clark kostik</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5594</link> <dc:creator>clark kostik</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:40:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5594</guid> <description>Our country should be so thankfull for the contribution multi&quot;s and the great men and women who made them come alive.It reminds me of Christmas and JESUS is still alive Rev22:12 &quot;behold,I am coming quickly,and MY reward is with ME,to render to every man according to what he has done.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our country should be so thankfull for the contribution multi&#8221;s and the great men and women who made them come alive.It reminds me of Christmas and JESUS is still alive Rev22:12 &#8220;behold,I am coming quickly,and MY reward is with ME,to render to every man according to what he has done.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gaffer Symthe</title><link>http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/swarf-oprah-and-the-acme/comment-page-1/#comment-5593</link> <dc:creator>Gaffer Symthe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:07:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/?p=1466#comment-5593</guid> <description>We have several Acmes and even some Conomatics still in service and productive today.  With proper modern setup reduction techniques, they still outshine CNCs for some duties.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have several Acmes and even some Conomatics still in service and productive today.  With proper modern setup reduction techniques, they still outshine CNCs for some duties.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
